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04/09/08

This really is good-bye ...

Posted by : Nancy Spoolstra in Reactive Attachment Disorder Blog at 01:53 pm , 1366 words, 1471 views  
Categories: My family

I can’t believe it has been over a month since I have posted a blog. It feels good to sit down and write another entry … and yet, I have been so insanely busy that I haven’t had a moment to even think about the blog, much less write it. Let me tell you what has happened in my life this past month …

My last entry showed you a photo of the used (but new to us) horse trailer my husband and I recently purchased. We traveled to Indiana to retrieve the trailer. Ten minutes after leaving the trailer lot, we stopped to get gas, and being unfamiliar with the (non-existent) turning radius of the trailer, my husband clipped a post next to the gas pump. One pole of the trailer awning was damaged, and we duct taped it on the way home.

I forgot to mention that the week prior to retrieving the trailer, a deer jumped out in front of my husband and he hit it with the less-than-a-week-old truck. We had the truck repaired.

OK, so we get the trailer home and somehow manage to park it in front of our barn. The thing is heavy and long and a totally different driving experience. The next day I take it to a local trailer place for repairs. It stays there for over a week. In the meantime, we find a third horse to buy, and bring him home in our old two-horse trailer.

A week later this new horse fails the pre-purchase exam we had arranged using my equine vet, and we make arrangements to return him to the buyer, since our purchase of him was contingent on him passing the exam.

I had been scrambling to prepare horses, riders and trailer for an organized trail ride benefitting children with cerebral palsy. When the newly purchased horse needed to be returned, we were once again “down” a horse. I hadn’t put shoes on my old Arab, thinking I wouldn’t need to take him, but it appeared he’d have to go. I started my Internet searching for another horse, and made preliminary inquiries on about a dozen possibilities.

Quite unexpectedly, another suitable horse was found not far from our home, and arrangements were made to return horse #1 and retrieve horse #2 all in the same day … and at this point, it was two days before Beth and I had planned to leave for the ride.

I managed to drop horse #1 off without incident, but while I was making a huge wide circle in the gravel parking lot in front of the barn that contained horse #2, I wasn’t so fortunate. Although the truck and trailer were only at about a 110-degree angle, it was still tight enough that the gooseneck trailer dented the truck next to the back window and broke the rear cab window. I drove home with the heat blasting and rear-window air conditioning …

I dropped the truck off at the Chevy dealer that afternoon and pleaded with them to fix it ASAP. Over the next two days, I cleaned the trailer from top to bottom. I started packing the trailer for our trip. I retrieved the truck at 3 PM on the day we had planned to leave (we had moved back our plans until the following morning) and immediately went home, hooked up the trailer, and headed once again for the trailer repair place. The plan was to put an extender on the gooseneck of the trailer and get it 9 inches farther away from the truck cab. I waited while the work was completed and left about 5 PM. Before getting the trailer home, the now-lower (but farther back!!!) gooseneck housing managed to dent one side wall of the truck when the truck and trailer were not on virtually even ground. I was back at the trailer place the first thing the next morning.

At that point it was decided that the steel gusset of the trailer was so bulky and designed to be so close to the truck bed that we were not likely to be able to avoid future problems … so we traded that trailer in and started all over again. Of course, we had been hemorrhaging money at this point, with truck repairs, trailer repairs, horse returns, etc. This was SUPPOSED to be my recreation.

We didn’t go on the trip. It turns out it rained and was cold and the day everyone left, folks were getting stuck in the mud … I would have been a basket case trying to pull our rig out. The weekend we were supposed to be on the ride, Beth had a cold and I had the stomach flu … not to mention that I was totally wiped out from the whole debacle.

Last weekend I traveled to New England and presented workshops all day on Saturday. During all the running around and stress with the trailer, I was trying to prepare workshops and handouts for the conference. Throw in some out-of-town company, horses that got into grain and had to be dosed with mineral oil to prevent colic and founder (more $$ of course!!) and a few thousand other minor details … and it is a darn good thing I wasn’t trying to blog as well.

As of this moment, we have no trailer. However, we are in the process of getting a different type that has a much more user-friendly gooseneck hitch.

I took the hint that my life is a bit too full right now to be able to devote the time and energy necessary to continue writing this blog, so I am sorry to say I am bidding you a final farewell. I am desperately trying to recapture some R & R in my life, and once we get all the bugs worked out, we are going to spend weekends camping and riding the trails in our regional area.

I have no plans to blog anywhere else, but instead will devote more time to the Attachment & Trauma Network. I have thoroughly enjoyed writing this blog and getting to know many of you. Your comments were always greatly appreciated. I enjoyed the lively debates that occasionally occurred. I wish the subject matter could have been more upbeat more often … but I wrote what I was feeling and experiencing. I never claimed to have all the answers, or even to know all the questions. I was and am muddling through, just like all of you.

In a recent conversation with Ken Huey who is also an adult adoptee and the CEO of a residential treatment facility, Ken said studies have shown that the single most important factor in whether or not therapy succeeds or doesn’t succeed is the therapist’s investment in the relationship. This was true regardless of the type of therapy used. Ken extrapolated this finding to parenting as well. He told me that while my intensity and expectations were on the high end of the parenting spectrum, so was the degree of my investment in my relationships with my kids. In observing me with my children, Ken said it was clear that my kids knew how highly valued and loved they were and that I expected much of them because I wanted much for them.

When my husband and I purchased the first horse trailer, there was so much that we didn’t know. We really wish the folks who sold us that first trailer had done more to prepare us and make sure we had what we needed to be successful (like the extender for the gooseneck and maybe even a different trailer entirely …) It would have been nice to have them delineate our possible pitfalls. We learned many things the hard way. My husband likened it to our experiences adopting.

However, we anticipate that this too, shall pass. Our memories of all these tough times, while they may never entirely disappear, will hopefully be replaced with better experiences. This has been the case in our adoption journey. I wish the same for you.

Please don’t make your journey alone. Seek out other parents for support. Come see us at ATN. God bless.


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Comment from: Chromesthesia [Member] Email
:o(
You'll be missed.
I learned a lot about RAD from this blog.
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Comment from: MamaS [Member] Email
Your common sense and honesty made your writing memorable. I wish you good health and a peaceful life.
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Comment from: condo-mom [Member] Email
I've learned a lot from you also Nancy. Thank you for continuing your good work with ATN. I hope someday to make it to an ATN Conference. And I hope all the time and investment in getting your horses and trailers operational pays off -- have fun !! -- Rachel
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Comment from: Sunbonnet Sue [Member] Email
sounds like you've been having a smashing good time!

awareness of attachment issues is on the rise, and you have played a big part in that trend.

moms with intense personalities and high expectations for their kids needed someone to step up. Thanks for being that person for our family!
PermalinkPermalink 04/10/08 @ 18:22
Comment from: jpdakota [Member] Email
Godspeed, Nancy.
JP
PermalinkPermalink 04/10/08 @ 19:19
Comment from: Lindy [Member] Email
Nancy....your've been a friend when I needed a friend. It's been such a pleasure reading about your family and learning more about RAD. Thank you for sharing and being real. I wish you and your family the happiest of times.
PermalinkPermalink 04/10/08 @ 22:13
Comment from: paulukon [Member] Email
You will be missed by me, too! Just the other day I was reminded of you and wondered why I hadn't seen any messages lately. I found the website back and realized I'd forgotten your last post. So I was excited to see a new one...but disappointed by the title. Good luck! And if anyone else starts blogging on RAD for adoptionblogs, I hope a post is put on this one to let us know.
PermalinkPermalink 04/11/08 @ 09:13
Comment from: sheriv [Member]
You know there is a reason for everything.... I write for myself, discovered the ATN and have been blessed and now accidentally end up here to find your ending your blog.... Maybe I can try to do my piece to share my journey and help others in their journey of RAD parenting.

Thanks Nancy for all you do.......

Sheri
PermalinkPermalink 06/06/08 @ 14:04
Comment from: mlmckenna [Member]
As a brand new member, I've been perusing your posts, Nancy. Sounds like it takes guts to talk about RAD behavior problems even on this blog. I read some comments that sound like my kids' teachers when they scold me about not being nurturing enough, not giving enough positive reinforcement. And when I talk about the Power and Control issues their eyes glaze over and I feel sure they scorn me. I try to remember that what I am made to feel like is probably exactly what my 3 kids feel: insecure, vulnerable and somewhat justified [because I know something the teachers don't know].
My identification with you, Nancy, leads me to hope that you are not taking a sabbatical because of the unaware people in the world. If they lived with a child with RAD, they would recognize your descriptions without criticism. I just discovered your blog, and I need to communicate with as many people as can truly understand. I hope you can regenerate and come back in.
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Comment from: morris52302 [Member]
Hi...New to this blog. What do others recommend for a good book on RAD?
PermalinkPermalink 07/28/08 @ 09:06
Comment from: nancyatn [Member] Email · http://www.radzebra.org/
To the last two commenters ... I did not stop blogging here because of the naysayers ... I stopped because my life required that I stop ... I needed to take some time for myself. I am considering blogging on the ATN website but haven't really started it yet. Perhaps in the not-to-distant future. To morris ... you inquired about a good book on RAD ... what exactly are you looking for? A personal story, an explanation of how it develops, a parenting approach ... please narrow it down.

Nancy
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02/19/08

See ya later but not goodbye?

Posted by : Nancy Spoolstra in Reactive Attachment Disorder Blog at 01:14 pm , 730 words, 1942 views  
Categories: A Day in the Life ...

In late November, I wrote this blog entry and discussed the fact that I needed a blogging break. Many of you concurred. I cut my blog entries in half in December, fully expecting to resume full speed ahead in January. It didn’t happen. Here we are, approaching the end of February, and I am still struggling to get posts written on a regular basis.

Perhaps it has something to do with the additional time and energy requirements imposed by adding Dora last fall. Perhaps it has to do with Kyle and Marie moving back close to home last December, or the holiday hustle and bustle. Maybe it is my recent surgery and the physical and emotional energy utilized for healing and recovery. Of course, homeschooling Beth has impacted my time expenditure.

Alternatively, it could be the fact that, having given up on ever getting Java (our recently purchased Quarter horse) in our old two-horse straight load trailer, we just made a deposit on the most incredible new (used) 3-horse slant with living quarters … and I am spending very happy times cruising the Internet, checking out all the trail riding options (and perhaps open horse shows) available within a few hours of driving from my home. Last Sunday, we headed out to drive 7.5 hours to St. Paul, MN, to see a horse in Des Moines on the way, a horse in the St. Paul area, and then have dinner with Stephanie. A bad snowstorm aborted our plans, and we returned home. We tried again yesterday, driving just to Des Moines to see the first horse. We are looking for another one like Java … but this horse wasn’t it. But it is very fun finding them online and scoping them out. Not many families spend the entire day in a car to go check out a horse … but what can I say?

Maybe I’m blogging less because I want to rediscover my embroidery machine. I have actually signed up for an embroidery demo in late March; however, in perusing trail riding opportunities, I found this late March ride benefiting kids with cerebral palsy. If we do this ride, I’ll have to cancel my embroidery class. It means I have a little over a month to pick up our new trailer (it is in Indianapolis, by the way—we found it while I was there for my surgery last week), get shoes on both horses, get our equipment together, get the horses in slightly better physical shape, etc. etc. etc.

I think Beth and I will try to go … is anyone interested in helping us raise money for CP? (Email me if you are ... I'd like to raise as much as possible!)

Remember when I told you about my trip with my mom last year? We are doing it again this year … only instead of horseback riding in Florida, we are cruising in Mexico. I know, it’s rough, but someone has to do it. I leave in a few days. I don’t really think I want to blog while I’m on the ship … sorry, guys … I can’t seem to find the motivation to write blogs in advance … it would cut into my time cruising the Internet for trail-broke horses and upcoming trail rides. I also want to embroider a “Beth’s Mom” swim t-shirt for me to wear to her Division II championship meet this weekend. Maybe I can find time to order wedding pictures from Kyle and Marie's May 2006 wedding ... do ya think? Or create the photo show of pictures I promised my vet school classmates at our reunion last October.

So, guess what? I am taking a REAL blogging break. Rather than quit entirely, I have reached an agreement with the folks here at adoption.com to just take a sabbatical for now. I will regroup in a month or six weeks, and see where I stand. In the meantime, I plan to lighten my load as much as possible and revisit the hobbies and pastimes I once enjoyed.

Hang in there ... I know many of you are struggling. I'm sorry to pull any source of support out from under you. If you haven't found the support available through ATN, please check it out.

Hopefully I'll see you again in the not-to-distant future, rejuvenated and ready to write!

Photo Credit ... our new home-away-from-home

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Comment from: BEACHLADY [Member] Email
I really just don't know how you find enough hours in the day to do all you do!!!
Enjoy your time away from blogging!!!
I will certainly miss reading your posts!
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Comment from: Kelly [Member] Email · http://fost-adopt.adoptionblogs.com
Enjoy your horses and kiddos. Remember, you can come riding in Wisconsin, if the snow ever melts that is.
PermalinkPermalink 02/19/08 @ 15:20
Comment from: Sunbonnet Sue [Member] Email
what? and leave all this? just for a lousy cruise and some horse riding/shopping? I'm shocked. truly shocked.........

which of course, I'll be able to express my level of shock more completely in a couple of hours, when I come over for a bowl of homemade soup.
PermalinkPermalink 02/19/08 @ 16:17
Comment from: fenyimom [Member] Email
I'm just boggling after reading this -

"I think Beth and I will try to go … is anyone interested in helping us raise money for CP?"

followed by this -
"I also want to embroider a “Beth’s Mom” swim t-shirt for me to wear to her Division II championship meet this weekend. "

What is Dora doing while you are traveling all over the place and doing fun things with Beth? Waiting until she has earned the right to be part of your family? Unbelievable.

PermalinkPermalink 02/19/08 @ 18:39
Comment from: pat johnston [Member] Email · http://www.perspectivespress.com
What a lovely bon voyage message Fenyi.

Nancy, you need and deserve a break. Have a good one, and draw your family close around you.

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PermalinkPermalink 02/19/08 @ 20:06
Comment from: guppy [Member] Email
Have fun; I am definitely jelaous... How cool is your business with horses?! Way too cool.
PermalinkPermalink 02/19/08 @ 20:19
Comment from: Lindy [Member] Email
Enjoy....sounds wonderful. I'll look forward to reading all about your activities, etc. It's nice to be able to get away from the norm and do a little soul renewal.
PermalinkPermalink 02/19/08 @ 21:42
Comment from: my2rubies [Member] Email
Enjoy your break, Nancy.

As for Dora, work on the relationship first, the behaviors will come...you'll see. It's not an either-or.
PermalinkPermalink 02/20/08 @ 06:24
Comment from: Jenna Hatfield [Member] Email · http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/
Enjoy your time, Nancy. We all need it. :)
PermalinkPermalink 02/20/08 @ 11:55
Comment from: Cindy Bodie [Member] Email · http://older-child.adoptionblogs.com
I'm going to miss your posts but I truly understand your reasoning.
PermalinkPermalink 02/20/08 @ 12:48
Comment from: deb donatti [Member]
Enjoy your time Nancy!
You certianly deserve it.
PermalinkPermalink 02/20/08 @ 19:25
Comment from: Stefanie [Member] Email
Enjoy your break, Nancy - it's well deserved!
Thanks for your wonderful recent blogs. I haven't been commenting (you cover all my questiions!) but I've been reading and learnig! I look forward to more when you've finished your sabbatical!
I'm very jealous of you with your new trailer - it sounds fantastic ;~) Have fun with the horses and I hope you find another perfect partner.
Good luck with everything over the next while!

~Stef
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02/15/08

Sociopathy--another shooting on a college campus

Posted by : Nancy Spoolstra in Reactive Attachment Disorder Blog at 07:01 am , 442 words, 921 views  
Categories: Personality and Conduct Disorders

I have received some excellent and thought-provoking comments about Dora’s brief stay in respite care while I had my surgery. I will answer the questions and respond to the comments in a post in the near future … but this morning I am compelled to address yet another school shooting tragedy.

I was actually presenting a luncheon RAD workshop to over a hundred Rotary Club members at the very time the Virginia Tech shooting was occurring. Those folks returned to their jobs for the rest of the afternoon and sadly, everything I had just said was reinforced in the craziness of that campus shooting.

Now here we go again. I heard one of many news commentators (or perhaps it was a call-in guest) wonder why these kids and young adults who are so emotionally disturbed did not receive or respond to mental health intervention. Well, perhaps that is because there was no appropriate intervention available, or because the child refused to do the work, or because everyone around the mentally ill person refused to acknowledge what they were seeing.

This shooting shakes me to the core for many reasons, but especially because it is the university that Kyle and Marie just graduated from last December. They spent several years there. Kyle was a TA and might know some of the victims. Marie’s cousin is attending NIU and he is a freshman. He called Marie’s aunt and uncle yesterday to tell them he was OK, but also told them four of his friends were shot.

How is a parent supposed to deal with this? We all know we can lose our lives in vehicular accidents or due to unexpected illnesses. No one wants to think about that, but we all understand that bad things happen to good people. But this rash of campus shootings … It certainly adds one more item to the lengthy plus column as to why I am homeschooling Beth right now. I know I can’t protect her indefinitely from this kind of tragedy—I can’t protect Steph who is still in college, or Marie who will soon be a classroom teacher.

I will focus on what I can do. And what I can do is mobilize folks like those of you reading this blog, and together we can raise our voices and demand the services we need … such as therapeutic respite care, which I will address again shortly. Please join me if you are comfortable in praying for the families and victims of this latest tragedy.

Incomprehensible grief

Like mother, like daughter

The needs of the many or few?

Escalation and pushing the boundaries

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Comment from: Kelly [Member] Email · http://fost-adopt.adoptionblogs.com
I have been thinking of Kyle and Marie. How are they doing? Please give them a hug from us and we're sending up prayers.
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Comment from: katef [Member]
I'm with you on this one Nancy, how does one deal with such senseless killings? It really shakes me because I'm currently attending the University of New Mexico, which has about 30,000 students and a very similar layout like the most recent college. I don't like to think about the what "if's" but they do happen to cross my mind when there really is no telling if or when something like this is going to happen. My prayers are with yours.
PermalinkPermalink 02/15/08 @ 09:55
Comment from: Lindy [Member] Email
Nancy...you may want to check out the school shooting that took place this week in Oxnard, CA. It was a very sad case of a foster child being shot by another student in the classroom. Once again, the proper services were not in place to protect the victims (and there are many).
PermalinkPermalink 02/15/08 @ 15:27
Comment from: lucy [Member] Email
Services are a big issue. I raised a sociopath. I remember fighting to keep him confined. I was told that he "did not have a mental illness, but a personality disorder and if he killed someone, the criminal court would deal with that." I commented that that wouldn't make whoever he killed any less dead. But, the facility psychiatrist felt that since no meds would help, and he was nice and polite, that he deserved to be free.

Every time one of these mass killings happen, I think about the killers parents. I wonder how many knew. I wonder how many fought for help and were turned away.

It's rather scary to think about.

Lucy
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Comment from: my2rubies [Member] Email
Lucy, you're right, it is very frightening--and sad.

My condolences go out to all the families involved. A neighbor told me that they lived very close to this school before they relocated to our area and that they knew a few kids who went to the school. They're pretty shook up.
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02/14/08

The fallout after four days of Disneyland respite

Posted by : Nancy Spoolstra in Reactive Attachment Disorder Blog at 08:12 am , 581 words, 1365 views  
Categories: Parent issues or child issues?, Fakey fakey fakey

Yesterday was spent traveling home to Kansas after my endoscopic surgical procedure in Indianapolis. I awoke this morning at 5 AM with a migraine—no surprise there, after general anesthetic, a little extra stress (although I wasn’t really worried about this at all) and a completely out-of-sync sleep schedule. My throat still hurts but it is better. I had dinner with my doctor the day after my surgery (he's a long time friend), and he mentioned he wasn’t sure the big tube would fit down my throat … so that tells you how tight it was. No wonder my throat felt so violated!

Dora spent four days with a neighbor. Dora couldn’t afford to miss school, and she’s been singularly unpleasant to be around, so we opted out of dealing with that while I was having surgery. As expected, she worked her magic on the neighbors; the mom was effusive in her description of what a delight little Dora was to be around. Dora headed out to school this morning with a nicely decorated Valentine’s Day box. Dora has not said one word to me about it; although I suspected the class was doing them. It wasn’t up to me to beg for the privilege of helping her make a box. I was virtually certain Dora would play the “I need a Valentine box but my mom won’t help me” card. Who knows how she actually presented it to the neighbor. There was a time when it would bother me, but that time has passed. I finally have accepted the fact that is it totally unrealistic to expect the average neighbor or community member to understand the real dynamics when they spend four days with a child who puts on her best face and stuffs all the real negative feelings down deep. I've seen the honeymooning Dora, and she's very good at her shtick.

My husband picked Dora up at the neighbors last night while I went out to do horse chores. Upon my return, I heard Dora crying. I asked what the matter was, and she said, “NOTHING!” So I said, “OK. I’m here if you want to talk, but I’m not begging you to do so.” It turns out Dora was crying over having to leave the honeymoon ideal of the neighbor’s home, only to return to this Land of Accountability and Realism. I offered to rock her but acknowledged that I was the problem for her. She opted to deal with it alone.

This morning, I asked her to describe to me why she was crying. She said, “For some reason, when I go to another house they are nice to me and I want to live with them!” I asked her if she thought she just had the bad fortune of landing in “mean houses” or perhaps might her behavior have something to do with it? Additionally, I asked her if she thought things would get difficult at the neighbor’s home if she stayed there long enough. She said, “Yes, I would get mad.” I reminded her of my husband’s comment that, “Wherever you go, there you are!”

Dora is not happy about how her life is unfolding but she is still not willing to be the one to fix anything. When I asked her if she had any interest in working on it, she immediately said “NO.” So there you have it. Onward ho!

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Comment from: Kelly [Member] Email · http://fost-adopt.adoptionblogs.com
Oh joy, oh happy day. Sorry you're dealing with this after your surgery.
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Comment from: scrapsbynobody [Member] Email · http://scrapsbynobody.blogspot.com/
Yes, oh joy to have to deal with this on top of feeling unwell.

On the other hand, you could opt to leave it undealt with. Then Dora would have a life time of honeymooning and crashing to look forward to.
PermalinkPermalink 02/14/08 @ 11:55
Comment from: Lindy [Member] Email
I believe that this kind of kid gets used to honeymooning and crashing and that becomes their comfort zone. It is so darned uncomfortable to be real that they take the familiar way out and stay in their destructive cycle. I've been dealing with this cycle for over ten years with no improvement in accountability. I'm at the point where I don't even look for improvement anymore. I just hope that somewhere down the road something will click with her and she will try a little harder.
PermalinkPermalink 02/14/08 @ 17:06
Comment from: condo-mom [Member] Email
Yes, it seems children with attachment issues make PERFECT houseguests !! We have received many comments about the politeness, thoughtfulness, neatness and all-around WONDERFUL-NESS of our daughter at others' homes. (Once a friend saw her dark underbelly when she had a raging episode with me at their house. Eyes widened in surprise all around.) She seems to credit our bizarre interest in accountability and realism as the cause of much unnecessary pain in her life. -- Rachel
PermalinkPermalink 02/14/08 @ 17:13
Comment from: katef [Member]
It truly is amazing how RAD kids can be total opposites once they are in a new situation compared to how they are at home. My sister does the same thing and continuously blames my parents for the pain in her life. The interesting aspect is, though, that like most RAD kids she'll be really nice to a "new" friend but once she feels that she has lost control and that there will have to be give and take in that new relationship she destroys it.
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Comment from: CREAMPUFF_SUGAR [Member] Email
Nancy, Please understand the spirit this is asked in~with incredulity and yet gently: Was it worth it having Dora in "Disneyland Respite" for the four days of school she was able to attend. To me, it seems like a VERY HIGH price to pay. I would be paying for weeks, and with one of mine, months.
patricia
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Comment from: scrapsbynobody [Member] Email · http://scrapsbynobody.blogspot.com/
Also said gently, I agree with Creampuff. There are a few situations I would consider as emergencies, and realize I had no choice. Amputation comes to mind. Natural disaster blocking the roads maybe. But quite honestly it just never seems worth the price we have to pay, both in snarky behavior and in lost ground.

But then on the other side of that, you wear yourself pretty thin, and wonder if it is worth the price. Some days I am very hopeful and see lots of great stuff, but it is discouraging how fast you can slip back to square one.
PermalinkPermalink 02/15/08 @ 06:36
Comment from: bluestocking [Member]
I guess I'm not quite sure what you wanted from her here. Did you want her to behave badly at the neighbors or to be surly and negative and give them a taste of what you say has been her consistently unpleasant behavior? Have you asked her why she didn't have you help her with the Valentine's box? Did you ask the neighbors how they came to help her with it? If she was home sick from school for a week and knew that you would be going to have surgery and would be gone for four days, isn't it possible that she simply didn't feel up to doing the Valentine's box or forgot about it or, since you apparently aren't getting along with her, didn't think you'd want to help her? There again, if you knew her class was making Valentine's boxes, why didn't you ask her about it? Why the game playing with her? I do get that you've had a stressful week and hope you're doing better. I also wonder, though, what it would be like to be Dora.
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Comment from: scrapsbynobody [Member] Email · http://scrapsbynobody.blogspot.com/
Actually, when you think about it, Dora is a smart little cookie. She has already shown an understanding of acceptable social behavior, in that she is polite and pleasant out in public, and genuine in private. Further, she also understands (as evidenced by the infamous Valentine box) that acting needy to get a stranger to help you get/do something you want, is pretty low commitment on the emotional level, whereas asking a parent to help you or give you something, implies that they have some sort of control over you.

The problem is that Dora's genuine emotions are sad and mad, and making herself vulnerable by actually asking someone close to help her is just too hard. I don't picture you, Nancy, sitting there keeping score of these issues in a mean spirited way, only watching them from close by, and seeing the small things for what they are. In our home, I find that knowing and naming all the little games and undercurrents, doesn't change daily life one bit. You still feed them, and talk to them, and hug them goodnight.

But somewhere in the back of your mind there is always this urgency. You can see the misery in them, and you know that if hope, and trust, and affection fail to break through, they will be condemned to lives of endless honeymoooning and crashing, and shallow, short lived relationships. If this is a game, it has pretty high stakes.
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Comment from: Nancy Spoolstra [Member] Email · http://attachment-disorder.adoptionblogs.com/
Very interesting comment, scraps, and although I will address these responses more fully in an upcoming post, I had to share something I heard last night.

Dora talks to herself big time after she goes to bed. She's refusing to talk to us, and on all accounts she much prefers being solely in charge of her life and her emotions. When she talks to herself, no one challenges her thinking! What I heard last night in her soliloquy (when she didn't know I could hear her) were statements like this:
I need to toughen up, like I toughened up when I went to the babysitter every Saturday (in her previous adoptive home.)

I need to fight harder--fight kindness harder. I need to be tough.

She's always talking about my pity parties. Yes, I have pity parties! About 30-100 a day!

The overall tone of her self-to-self conversation was about how she could maintain or reinforce her walls rather than drop them. And therein lies the biggest problem. She'd much rather fight the battle and lose the war.
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Comment from: CREAMPUFF_SUGAR [Member] Email
Nancy,

I appreciate you sharing Dora's "self-talk". It helps me understand my son's behaviours better. I believe this is probably what he says to himself, but in his mind.

patricia
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Comment from: Lindy [Member] Email
"I need no one and I can choose to live any way I want to." My daughter's walls are two feet thick and ten feet tall. The electricity was off in her room due to some recent remodeling work. She chose to sit in the dark to do her homework rather than join the rest of the household in a common area. It must be so lonely to have to rely on yourself to the exclusion of everyone.
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Comment from: my2rubies [Member] Email
Maybe it's time to consider another approach? I'm happy to point you in a new direction if you're open to it.
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Comment from: fenyimom [Member] Email
poor babe. That would have had me in tears, listening to her tell herself that she has to toughen up. Especially that she had to toughen up like she did when she went to the babysitter. She is fighting so hard to keep herself from getting hurt again.
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Comment from: bluestocking [Member]
Sounds like a bright, strong-willed little girl who's been hurt badly and is afraid to trust you because she thinks you're probably going to give her away like her adoptive parents did.

I was bullied badly at school and I remember myself at the same age gearing up to go to school with similar self-talk: "You have to be tough. You just can't let it matter." Etc. etc. etc. It's a self-defense mechanism. Obviously it's not quite the same thing, but it's not an unreasonable reaction from someone who's been hurt that badly. I would have had a very hard time not going into her and saying, "It's OK. We won't send you away. We'll love you no matter how hard you try to push us away and we want to help you." I hope she's hearing a good bit of that from you too.
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Comment from: my2rubies [Member] Email
That self-talk stayed with me all night. It's amazing to see how the same words can have such different meanings to people. I'm reading Dr. Ross Greene's book "The Explosive Child."

He says "There's a big difference between viewing inflexible-explosive behaviors as the result of a brain-based failure to progress developmentally and viewing them as planned, intentional, and purposeful. That's because your interpretation of a child's inflexible-explosive behaviors will be closely linked to how you try to change these behaviors. In other words, YOUR INTERPRETATION WILL GUIDE YOUR INTERVENTION.

"If you interpret a child's behavior as planned, intentional, and purposeful, then labels such as "stubborn", "manipulative," "coercive,"bratty," "attention seeking," "conrolling," "resistant," and "defiant" will sound perfectly reasonable to you, and popular strategies aimed at motivating compliant behavior and "teaching the child who's boss" will make perfect sense."

"...I encourage you to put this motivational explanation on the shelf and give some consideration to the alternative explanation: that your child's behavior is unplanned and unintentional and reflects a physiologically based development delay in the skills of flexibility and frustration tolerance."

Wow!

I feel like there's a double standard at work here. Dora's behavior is described as "snarky". Yet you obviously accuse her out loud of pity parties. (I often wonder if the "snarky" way I read on these boards of people describing their children's behavior is conveyed to them as well...Dora's words tell me yes. Do you also accuse her of playing games? Is she just giving back the behavior that is being modeled for her?

The fact that Dora wouldn't even say one word to you about the box tells me that there's serious trouble in this relationship. And as a young child, all the burden for fixing that can't be placed on her shoulders. It's too much. Her behavior is telling you that. Are you listening?
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Comment from: Nancy Spoolstra [Member] Email · http://attachment-disorder.adoptionblogs.com/
For what it is worth, Dora has had lots and lots of opportunities thus far to grasp and embrace what is being offered... and what is being offered is security, stability, love and nurturing. She's holding out for reasons of her own, and she can and will readily state those reasons. You know ... you can lead a horse (or zebra) to water but ... you can't make them drink. I am more than available to Dora any time she wants to talk, process, cry, rock, whatever ... as long as she is willing to put forth just the tiniest effort to make it a reciprocal interaction. Do I want to be strictly a default warm body to be "used" when she needs a fix? No, and I can't imagine she can engage in too many healthy relationships in the future where 98.6 bodies are virtually interchangeable. When she first arrived and for several months, we expected absolutely nothing in return. Our expectations of effort on her part are really very, very minimal. What we are seeing is effort alright ... effort to maintain her walls and her distance. Me doing more work on this right now than she is will only delay her need to address it herself.

She's a very, very bright girl and very aware of some of her behaviors and she has had countless opportunities to make slow, incremental changes with lots of support. Thus far, she's not interested. She has her reasons for not being interested, and I am not at liberty to share them here, so I guess my readers will have to go on not getting the whole picture.
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Comment from: fenyimom [Member] Email
Bluestocking mentioned having similar talks with herself as a child. I had the same reaction, having been bullied nonstop from 5th grade through 8th grade. I didn't want to worry my parents with what was happening, but I certainly remember telling myself over and over "be tough. They can't hurt you if you are tough enough."
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Comment from: bluestocking [Member]
OK, obviously we don't have all the facts and it wouldn't be right for you to violate this child's privacy by giving them. On the other hand, what you have described sounds like a poor relationship heading further downstream and a nine-year-old child who you have accused of "not doing the work on her life." Maybe I simply don't understand your jargon. I don't know what your meaning is there or what you think is a minimal requirement. She does sound like an unhappy kid who has been living with a foster family for six months after being dumped by her adoptive parents because they weren't willing to keep doing what was necessary to help what is probably a difficult child who acted out in ways they couldn't manage. In those circumstances, most normal people would find it hard to trust, particularly if they knew from experience that their world could be yanked out from under them at any time.
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Comment from: fenyimom [Member] Email
Agree with bluestocking. Dora's world is still not on a firm footing, as far as what you have posted here. Unless you have started adoption proceedings, as far as she knows she could be moved to another strange home tomorrow. How can she consider investing herself in a situation that is so precarious?
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Comment from: Nancy Spoolstra [Member] Email · http://attachment-disorder.adoptionblogs.com/
Legal proceedings have begun, making her placement permanent.
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Comment from: bluestocking [Member]
Yeah. That's exactly my point, which Feniyimom expressed more succinctly and better than I did. Unless you have told this child explicitly that you are willing to keep her and love her, even when you don't like her behavior, will work with her and won't give up on her, regardless of how difficult she chooses to be, how the heck is she supposed to build that trusting relationship you want her to build with you? She apparently calls you "Mom," which sounds like one positive sign. Are you her "forever mom?" I think asking a kid to "claim you" without that guarantee of permanence is demanding far too much of a child, particularly a traumatized child. Adults need to take the first step. If you've given her those assurances and are now insisting that she start opening up to you, that's great, but it's not really clear from what you've written.
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Comment from: scrapsbynobody [Member] Email · http://scrapsbynobody.blogspot.com/
I have watched this conversation with interest, wondering how a couple of the participants fall into the adoption realm. Are you adoptive parents? Adoptees? Just curious, because in our home, and in our experience, legal proceedings matter not one whit to a child who has been moved from care giver to care giver. Neither does the use of the name "Mom". It means less than nothing to a child who has had multiple placements. Attaching significance to these things is something a normal healthy child or adult would do, but not an unattached one. When I was new to this, and uninitiated, I made the mistake of thinking these things would matter. I have since learned better, so focus my energies elsewhere. Remember, Dora has already been legally adopted by one family, and called at least one other woman Mom. If anything, these could actually be irritants to her emotionally, rather than reassurances.
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Comment from: my2rubies [Member] Email
Adoptive mom, here, nobody, just for the record.

I guess I'm wondering why legal proceedings have started. Sounds to me like you're headed into Amy-ville and I recall you explicitly saying back when Dora came along that you refused to go there again.
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Comment from: scrapsbynobody [Member] Email · http://scrapsbynobody.blogspot.com/
My2rubies,
Just curious, so feel free not to answer. How old was your child or children when they came home, and do they have a RAD diagnosis?

Also just wanted to say that I looked up some of the folks you have quoted in your previous comments, and found some excellent information and encouragement. Not from this post...one from awhile back. Thanks for sharing.
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Comment from: katef [Member]
From my own experience, like what Nancy is going through, no matter what title a person gives to the process of bringing a child into the family, whether it be signing the adoption papers, changing the last name, or anything in the like, when you give and give and give and get nothing in return it almost feels like your heart can't beat as strongly. It's not that you, as a parent or a sibling, are asking for them to attach without precautions, because that will never really happen, I think, if I'm understanding you correct Nancy, that we're just asking for some trust and acknowledgement.
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Comment from: jocelyn scott [Member]
Nancy, Dora sounds far more ambivalent to me than you seem to think. If her psychological walls were totally impermeable and impregnable, she wouldn't feel the need to keep giving herself a pep talk to keep them up. I wouldn't be so pessimistic; maybe she'll eventually feel secure enough to let them down or at least show you a crack or two in them. Good luck!
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02/12/08

A rare day of quiet for me ...

Posted by : Nancy Spoolstra in Reactive Attachment Disorder Blog at 08:03 am , 431 words, 791 views  
Categories: A Day in the Life ...

Other than the fact that my throat feels as if an entire army has marched over it, I am doing pretty well this morning after my gastric plication procedure yesterday. All my Propel tastes like anesthetic gas, but thankfully it is not as bad this morning as yesterday evening. I have done little but sleep since they put me out about 2 PM yesterday afternoon. I could easily put my computer down, crawl under the covers, and sleep some more right now … I have some slight discomfort in my mid-stomach area where I now sport a few new sutures ... but nothing major.

I won’t know for a few weeks or even months how effective this procedure will be, but my doc is very, very excited about the results he has seen thus far. I have a feeling I have been living with a low grade of discomfort for a very long time, punctuated with severe bouts. I am anxious to feel really good again.

During all of the pre-op stuff yesterday—you know, where you tell them a thousand times, over and over again, that you are not allergic to anything, all your teeth are your own, you are not pregnant, you don’t have on any jewelry, you didn’t eat anything past midnight—I shared with my first nurse about ATN. Her fiancé works for eTapestry.com. eTapestry is an organization that assists non-profits.

I told Joy, my nurse, about the kids and families served by ATN. She immediately connected with the need, based on some of the families she has seen during her nursing career. I also told her about Thomas Verny and the commercial I described in this post.

Joy made note of the ATN website, and I hope she tells her fiancé to check us out. I told her how we consisted of stressed-out families who are hard pressed to survive their own lives, much less volunteer in an organization and help financially. We need outside support. If any of you reading this blog know of any sources of support for ATN, please give me a call or email me. I don’t miss too many opportunities to promote our work, as you can see!

We are hanging out in our hotel room today, with Beth doing schoolwork, my husband participating in conference calls for his work, and I uncharacteristically silenced! We are having dinner with my doc and his wife tonight … he has been my friend since I was a teenager. We head home tomorrow. Thanks so much for all of your well-wishes.

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Comment from: Kelly [Member] Email · http://fost-adopt.adoptionblogs.com
I would pay a lot to see you totally silent :)

Hope you feel better soon and that the surgery was a success.
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02/11/08

How does stress impact our physical health?

Posted by : Nancy Spoolstra in Reactive Attachment Disorder Blog at 08:47 am , 439 words, 1002 views  
Categories: A Day in the Life ...

I’m writing this blog 500 miles away from home, sitting in a Red Roof Inn, hungry, and counting down the hours until I head to a local hospital today for an endoscopic procedure that will hopefully go a long way towards correcting the severe gastric reflux problem I have battled for years. I will get general anesthetic today, rather than “twilight sleep” which is what I experienced when I was “scoped” last fall.

Although Beth is with us, Dora is not. It is easy to bring Beth’s homeschooling. Dora missed nearly the whole week of school last week because of the flu. She couldn’t afford to miss three more days, and we were reticent to deal with her perpetual snarkiness when I was down for the count. Therefore, she’s staying with a neighbor.

We had dinner last evening with my husband’s aging parents. I explained GERD (Gastro-Esophageal Reflux Disease) and the probable origins of it (genetics, anatomy and stress). My father-in-law brought up the topic of a new vaccine available for Shingles and we discussed the fact that I have had Shingles as well—albeit a very mild case. I had one lesion on my back in the mid-90’s, and it occurred at the absolute peak of my personal family crises. I had an extensive telephone interview with a hospital pre-registration lady regarding my candidacy for general anesthesia, and we discussed my migraines.

I recently sent my mom to her doc to be evaluated for GERD, and I now believe she has battled it for years as well. My dad was a migraine sufferer (but they have stopped now.) I know many of my medical issues are genetically related. But how much has stress impacted them? How many of the reasons behind my preparing for this surgery relate to my stressful lifestyle?

There have been time periods in the past 15-20 years when the stress in my household was physically palpable. I lived in a constant state of stress. It was inevitable that my body reflected that stress. Even if and when I did a credible job of holding things together, I couldn’t prevent the escalating stress from impacting me physically.

There are many references in the literature to the high resting cortisol levels that are present in our traumatized kids. I have little doubt there are high resting cortisol levels in the kids’ equally traumatized parents. I am thinking of all you folks out there who are dealing with the direct and indirect physical fallout of living with traumatized kids.

I’ll try and post a post-operative report tomorrow morning!

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Comment from: Tuppy [Member] Email
Nancy, every day I deal with the toll stress has taken on my body in the form of psoriatic arthritis (a subset of rheumatoid arthritis that has the added component of psoriasis-of which mine is the lovely guttate form). I also have fibromyalgia.

My husband is wonderful and helps me manage my health. Outsiders certainly are not sympathetic if I share anything with them concerning my health, other than to say "then why are you still adopting and dealing with kids who have problems!"

Prayers going up for your procedure to go well and for your health to be helped by it.
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Comment from: condo-mom [Member] Email
This is insightful as I am dealing with ongoing health issues. Comes from a combination of genetics and not paying attention to myself. I would like to consider fostering and/or adopting again in the future, and there has got to be space in my life to be and stay healthy. Praying for your procedure Nancy. -- Rachel
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Comment from: Lindy [Member] Email
Positive energy and prayers are sent to you, Nancy, for a successful outcome and speedy healing. I agree that stress plays a very substantial role in our overall health. I try to find little pockets of time during each day to meditate and pray and put all negative thoughts out of my mind for just a few minutes. It's so easy to get caught up in the constant drama of our challenged kids to the exclusion of just normal living.
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Comment from: Sunbonnet Sue [Member] Email
we're thinking of you too, Nancy.
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