Reactive Attachment Disorder Blog

11/20/07

Find the middle ground if you can

Posted by : Nancy Spoolstra in Reactive Attachment Disorder Blog at 09:51 am , 574 words, 275 views  
Categories: Parenting Tips and Tricks
Bipette, the reader who is struggling with an unofficial foster son, wrote a poignant comment in response to my last post. I’d like to address some of her questions and thoughts.


This giving, nurturing mom is struggling mightily with the concept of being a “hard to get” mom and not chasing this boy in her zeal to get him to commit to the family. It is important to remember that I have had nearly two decades of practice in learning what I can and can’t accomplish by myself. I have learned the hard way that me wanting something in no way translates to the other party wanting the same thing. In Amy’s case, as long as I was doing any of the work on the relationship, no matter how little, it was enough to convince her that she didn’t have to work at it, because I was still holding at least some of the Units of Concern. As we approach the holidays, the ball is entirely in her court to “make nice” with the family—or not. She won’t, and that’s OK. If she does, it will be because she wants it, and that is the necessary ingredient for us ever to be on the road to any kind of relationship. (Not to mention that initiating contact will "put it out there" that she wants a relationship, and that equals vulnerability ... and she is nowhere near ready to go there.)

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As far as Bipette’s concern about showing vulnerability as a mom, I think that is not always a bad thing. Part of my conversations this week with Dora included telling her she was not the only one bringing wounded feelings to the table. I told her I had desired to connect with Amy as much as Dora had wanted to connect with her first adoptive family and her lost mom in China. I have made it clear that Dora is responsible for doing her part in this relationship, and that I would not lay my heart out for her to stomp all over until I saw some effort on her part. But that does not mean I won’t be emotionally available to her at all. I can show her that she is not the only one risking something here, without giving her license to abuse my feelings. It is absolutely OK to have feelings, but you can’t expect your kids to risk showing theirs if you keep yours under cover. At the same time, you can model healthy boundaries around feelings by not laying yours out for decimation.


I don’t know if it is because I have seen some kids choose “correctly” and other kids not, or because I am old and tired, or because I am getting my tank filled so completely by Beth and have less need for that “mom high” from another child, or because I have simply learned what I needed to learn to make this work … but I am really in a good spot for laying out Dora’s options. While I very much want her to join the program and claim this family, most days (not all) I can let it ride … OK if she does, OK if she doesn’t. With Amy, it was either way too much effort on my part, or no effort at all. I really struggled to find that middle ground.

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Comment from: Bippette [Member] Email
I just wanted you to know that I read and appreciated your response.

I truly don't understand why I'm sometimes able to keep my walls in place, and sometimes without warning they come crashing down. I guess that I have to keep practicing.

J's question was certainly a valid one...why indeed do I let the little things bother me so much. I don't have a good answer. He watched a movie with me, he met me part way. Just not all the way like I wanted.

I am as stubborn as the day is long, and I like to win/succeed. I've always struggled with finding the middle ground.

There is something about this particular boy that strikes an emotional chord within me....he reminds me of myself. I have four other small kids, two of whom are extremely emotionally healthy, and two of whom are recovered from attachment issues themselves. You'd think I'd get more than enough of a "Mom High" from them.
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 10:37
Comment from: Nancy Spoolstra [Member] Email · http://attachment-disorder.adoptionblogs.com/
From what you write, Bipette, you are much like me. We are used to succeeding if we but try hard enough. And we put 200% into life, so watching someone else not fully utilize their life makes us crazy. We value relationships over everything else, and we can't understand why others don't see it the same way. I completely, totally understand your struggle, believe me!
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 11:06
Comment from: Lindy [Member] Email
So do I! For me as a mom, it's been an all or nothing thing. It's total devotion to the relationship or it's no relationship. I've spent over ten years being totally devoted to building a relationship with my RAD, not accepting the FACT that she doesn't want it or need it. I've tried hovering around in the middle ground area and it's too painful. Stepping back is painful also, but at least I'm not constantly having my hopes dashed. It's just so very sad to see a person throw away the potential of a wonderful, fulfilling life. I don't think I'll ever get over it or fully understand it.
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 11:22
Comment from: Bippette [Member] Email
You hit it right on the head, Nancy. I'm honored that you think I am like you. I see a counselor every 2-4 weeks, and he tells me that I am an extremely unique person. :0) He told me the other day that he doubted Bill Gates' life was as complicated as mine is.

And Lindy, its only been three months for me. Eventually I will have to step back too if there's no progress. You can't beat your head against the wall forever.

And partly, I was indulging in a pity party. So I gave myself a pep-talk over lunch and I'm doing much better now.
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 11:52
Comment from: Nancy Spoolstra [Member] Email · http://attachment-disorder.adoptionblogs.com/
I don't often do pity-parties, but I do upon occasion. Sometimes I just need to go there (not much lately, though ... but oh, when Amy was at home it was a necessary thing once in awhile!) I don't stay there long, but once in awhile everyone needs to lick their wounds. What you have to remember, Bipette, is that if J chooses against connecting with your family, it was his choice. And it wouldn't be a choice against your family as much as it would be a choice away from intimacy and trust. In other words, a variable you can't control ... so you can't let your sadness over his choices overwhelm you.
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 12:21
Comment from: fearless [Member] Email
Nancy, you heartless snack. I just finished reading what you wrote and I have never been so ashamed of someone in my life. You are no messenger and at no point have you ever been innocent enough to be called a messenger. what i call this is a coward hiding and acting as if to be a lamb of truth. Amy has no right to be in your life. My point is proven once more, give her up your stability depends on it. I hope that seens Amy has departed from you and no longer lives with you, she can over come what she endured. As months pass you will have harsh things to write about her and maybe your life as an experionced DR. of what ever it may be just like your vet degree will rise to unsuspecting questioning. Messengers are poeple carring impotant information that is not biestof what they carry. You maddam are and the way i prove my case is simply you blog's. Your emotions and simple act of defience is my case. Mind you you will get better and i hope soon. I feel sad what life has made you, "jaded".
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 12:58
Comment from: Bippette [Member] Email
Wow, I would hate to be called a heartless snack. Would that make Nancy a Ding Dong or a Twinkie?

On a serious note, Fearless, whoever you are, you need to just not read Nancy's blog. It is not meant for you, but for people like me. Her advice is invaluable to me, and is keeping my chin above water. In turn, that's helping my three trouble kids keep THEIR heads above water.

If its offensive to you, don't read it. Your posts are pointless.
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 13:21
Comment from: Pylon [Member] Email
While I'm tempted to address the drivel written by "fearless", I can't help but snicker about the "heartless snack" comment. Geez... Fearless, if you're looking for cookies baked with love, don't go looking for with with RAD kids.
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 13:23
Comment from: John [Member] Email
Fearless, you haven't parented a child with those problems. I do wonder if you were on the recieving end of that type of parenting for cause, I even wonder if you might be Amy in disguise.

I have parented a child with those types of problems, eveything Nancy talks about is what works. She learned what works the hard way, trying normal parenting, getting terrible results, and then doing the parenting that has to be, even though it doesn't feel good. Talk to the people who run RTCs, they will confirm that what Nancy talks about it what you have to do with that type of child.

Bi, you left out HoHos, they also qualify. John
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 13:37
Comment from: pat johnston [Member] Email · http://www.perspectivespress.com
But I want to be chocolate chip cookies, John! I agree with you that this may be Amy
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 13:41
Comment from: CREAMPUFF_SUGAR [Member] Email
Ahhh, comments like "fearless"...alas, I fear that there are many like "fearless" out there. They look at things from the outside and because they see only what they want to see, they are convinced they are right. I am convinced they are very dangerous people and am glad to say to these people, "Thank you for you comments. I will consider them" and do my best, as I do with all fools, stay out of their way. I know they don't think they are bulls in china shops and would say that about the those of us parenting RAD kids, but truly, were they to have RAD kids, they would learn who the BULLS really are...

patricia
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 14:01
Comment from: dubbamom [Member] Email
Fearless, Does your mother know that you are on the internet and posting messages?

Funny you mentioned, Heartless Snacks, they are all gone at my house, because my RAD child, snuck out of bed last night and ate them all!
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 14:22
Comment from: miriam [Member] Email · http://www.growingjwards.blogspot.com
Being a vegetarian, I prefer my snacks heartless. Carry on, Nancy!
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 14:38
Comment from: rebrev [Member] Email
I think that this pursuing/distancing/neutral stance with our sons and daughters is essential to the life of our family. I have thought about the times I have pursued my daughter and that was totally a disaster, when I challenged her to be part of the family. I was way to willful and also very anxious to have her be a part of the family. I distanced from my daughters when I was very angry and hurt by their words or behavior. Now, I really work at being neutral. I still care about them but when I am neutral it seems like they feel safer to express the best parts of themselves. It might be because they won't get the reactive response they used to get. I just know that our house has a much more positive and seemingly healthier environment when we as parents are pretty neutral in our behavior. We still show our feelings and emotions but all the 'stuff' that used to send me into craziness doesn't anymore.
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 15:05
Comment from: Sunbonnet Sue [Member] Email
and don't forget "impotent messages." Nancy, you certainly do not have an impotent message! pass the caramels, you heartless snack.....
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 16:11
Comment from: eastern girl [Member] Email
Fearless, I'm sorry, but due to my profession (adult educator) I just have to say this. Get off the computer and sign up immediately for an English class. Your command of written English ensures that you'll only be doing menial jobs in the future. Take this seriously if you want to become an educated person with good job prospects. Best of luck.
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 16:55
Comment from: Deb Donatti [Member] Email · http://open.adoptionblogs.com
Dudes, Your're making me hungry, and I will tell you that I eat 'fearlessly'!
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 17:10
Comment from: Cynthia [Member] Email
The screenname tally for this poster currently stands at three... "greatful", "sweet12" and now "fearless". Don't be drawn in by these posts!
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 18:42
Comment from: Julie [Member] Email · http://special-needs.adoptionblogs.com/
You all are too quick on the comment -- with Ding Dongs, Ho Hos, and Twinkies already taken (and my favorites...all I can come up with are Fiddle Faddle and Cracker Jacks.

Carry on you Heartless Snack!
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 18:45
Comment from: Lindy [Member] Email
Oh how quickly we become sidetracked when chocolate is involved! Now I'm tempted to go out and buy a box of Ding Dongs to snack on while reading Nancy...wisdom and chocolate all at once! Can it get any better?????
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 20:16
Comment from: SunnyAndrsn [Member] Email
Whenever you write of Amy, the regret and sadness come through...I'm sorry that fools have to add to the hurt, and glad that you're able to withstand the fools so the rest of us can benefit from your strength and wisdom.

My own thoughts and feelings often echo yours when I'm reminded of a few of the children we tried to help. Thankfully, we have a "Beth" in our lives as well.

As for me, I'll take peanut butter cups for a heartless snack :-)
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 20:59
Comment from: Chromesthesia [Member] Email
I'd take huge amaounts of deep dark chocolate...
PermalinkPermalink 11/20/07 @ 22:15
Comment from: Kelly [Member] Email · http://fost-adopt.adoptionblogs.com
Someone pass the zebra cakes, would you?

Fearless, it is hard to take anyone seriously who blasts someone with poor grammar and spelling. You wouldn't be Amy in disguise would you?

Hugs Nancy. I know how much you have struggled and you know our feelings about our kids are very similar. Keep posting my friend, you know you are helping parents like us who have the same feelings.
PermalinkPermalink 11/21/07 @ 06:48
Comment from: sweet12 [Member] Email
fearless, has much as i want to agree with you... you were a bit mean to Nancy... i am not saying that what she did was right... because it is not... but that was quite mean... i understand where Nancy is coming from... i have a child with the same problems as Amy... but unlike Nancy... i went with the nice way to raise her up... and she comes to me for everything...Nancy i know that i have not been nice in the past... but thats because all you talk about is Amy... that poor girl... if she ever reads what you say... if i was her... i would not talk to you either... it is not nice to talk about YOUR child like this on the internet... talk to Amy... i am sure that she wants your love just like you want hers... but you have to show it...
PermalinkPermalink 11/21/07 @ 18:56
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